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The Skinny on Fat
With Lea Ann Holzmeister on December 18, 2000

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Mon Dec 18 2000 20:58:45 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
The chat will be starting at 9:00 Eayern time with guest host Lea Ann Holzmeister. OUr topic tonight is "The Skinny on Fat." Start thinking about your questions -- Lea Ann should be joining us shortly.

Mon Dec 18 2000 20:58:55 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Greetings!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:00:32 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Hey, KId! HOw are you?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:01:49 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Just came from a holiday party full of high fat munchies!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:03:12 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Aren't they all! I just HAD one of those parties last night! I made it a priority today to share the leftovers with friends and neighbors!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:04:07 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock (Marissa, 13, pump) from 206.112.197.133
Good evening. I've posted a note in the parents room about the chat here. Hope some moms head on over.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:04:23 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5 years) from 64.12.105.152
Hi. I ate a bunch of fat free pretzels today, and realized if I bought some with fat, I probably would have eaten less.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:04:32 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Hi, Jeff. Thanks very much.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:05:38 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.61
You are all here to chew the fat???

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:06:01 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
I've compared fat free and regular pretzels and the fat difference is not much but I know what you mean about not eating as much if it has fat in a product.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:06:04 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Hey, Ellen! Love those familiar "faces!"

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:06:33 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Hey, Judith -- yep! LOL

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:07:17 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5 years) from 64.12.105.152
Why is it that my son's bg doesn't go terribly high during the day when he consumes fatty foods (pizza, high fat ice cream etc.) but when he eats it at night - bang zoom - up to the sky????

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:09:15 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
It may have to do with the type and timing of insulin. Does he go high before bedtime, during the night or am

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:09:15 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5 years) from 64.12.105.152
Anyone here have a low fat latke recipe for Chanukah? How about low fat soofganiyot (deep fried donuts)?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:09:26 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.61
Or is that eschew the fat???

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:10:00 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.61
Low fat/deep fried??? Now THAT is an oxymoron!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:10:21 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5 years) from 64.12.105.152
Lee Ann, he's on an old pump so I can't set a temp increase in basal. Usually the rise is somewhere around 2:00 a.m. if he eats pizza at 9:pm-

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:11:20 Eastern US
Juli (Emily age 11, dx at 5 yrs) from 209.240.221.89
my daughter is the opposite. its hi in the day if she eats ice cr. but not at bedtime

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:11:26 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Have you searched on-line sites for low fat recipes? I would bet they have holiday recipes.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:12:20 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5 years) from 64.12.105.152
I was being sarcastic about the low fat latkes. The whole purpose is to celebrate OIL!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:12:34 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Hi, Juli. Welcome.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:13:34 Eastern US
Jessica (Wife) from 204.203.52.141
Oh I think I see you all again... Thought I lost you all... LOL

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:13:47 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
I was having trouble even imagining what a low-fat latke would be like -- sort of a faux latke!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:14:06 Eastern US
Juli (Emily age 11, dx at 5 yrs) from 209.240.221.89
my dietician said that pizza is slower to break dwn so it doesn't get in the blood stream util later. if you check you sugar everyinutes to see when it startsrising then you can wait and get your fast acting the not before you eat

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:14:29 Eastern US
Juli (Emily age 11, dx at 5 yrs) from 209.240.221.89
check every 15 min.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:14:34 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Hi, Jessica. Welcome to the chat.. talking about fat tonight

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:15:10 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
I lost my connection and was nowhere!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:15:41 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
Any differences in effects on bg among the various fats and oils?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:15:52 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Glad to experience your awareness of blood glucose and fat intake. Anyone looking at the types of fats (mono-unsaturated, poly....)

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:16:02 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
hello, you're talking about me???

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:16:27 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5 years) from 64.12.105.152
Lea Ann and BettyB, what's your opinion of Olestra?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:16:47 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
Hey, it's "BC Fats"! LOL

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:16:51 Eastern US
Juli (Emily age 11, dx at 5 yrs) from 209.240.221.89
w the best type of oil to fry with

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:16:51 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Hi, Connie -- naw!! we wouldn't do that!! Glad you amde it.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:17:03 Eastern US
Juli (Emily age 11, dx at 5 yrs) from 209.240.221.89
whats

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:17:30 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5 years) from 64.12.105.152
Connie (BC) loves jerky - is that a low fat product???? :-) Even if you eat the whole bag????

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:18:06 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
LOL Judith!! I'm bbqing, so going to have baked potatoe with lots of butter.....

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:18:24 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
what is this pick on Connie....????

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:18:45 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
About the types of fats and effect on blood glucose, not a difference but there is on blood fat levels. Olestra is a fat substitute that is an option to achieve a lower fat intake but the down side is the side effects, diarrhea, cramping and maybe some malabsorption of fat-soluble vitamins.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:19:02 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
Read the transcript fron the station, was so good I printed it!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:19:35 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Yeh, jerky is low fat, but very high in sodium.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:19:52 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Ellen, I'm not a great fan of Olestra. But you've been in here enough to know that I'm generally more in favor of a little bit of the "real thing," and leave the ersatz food products pretty much alone. Some of my patients have complained about diarrhea with significant intake. What's your experience been?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:21:08 Eastern US
Juli (Emily age 11, dx at 5 yrs) from 209.240.221.89
shold i watch the so content for my 11 yr. old or just someone who has high B/P

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:21:14 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
My one time experience with Olestra was great gi distress from a modest intake.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:21:15 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
Bety I love your attitude
Lea Ann, jerky is a weakness if I can find it without MSG in it!! So I really don't eat a lot of it since it's hard to find good stuff here!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:21:21 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Lea Ann, do you have a favorite type of opil to use in food preparation. Could you share that and why?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:21:35 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5 years) from 64.12.105.152
Low fat pan-roasted potato latke: (too much work) http://cookingedge.hypermart.net/latke.html

As for Olestra, I wouldn't touch the stuff. If I want potato chips, I want them with fat. I love olive oil for cooking. I'd rather have a little of something delicious, than a lot of something awful. I also detest nutrasweet...

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:21:38 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Sorry - OIL!! lol what a typist!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:21:47 Eastern US
Juli (Emily age 11, dx at 5 yrs) from 209.240.221.89
sodium

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:21:58 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
Ellen exagerates about it......

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:22:32 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
I use olive oil exclusively

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:23:09 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5 years) from 64.12.105.152
Connie (low fat) BOLONEY!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:23:58 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
I like Betty's idea of eating the real thing. If you don't experience eating the regular foods you may miss out on knowing how to..another words gorge on a bag of regular potato chips given the opportunity.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:24:39 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
LOL Ellen!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:25:09 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
I like Lea Ann attitude too!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:25:48 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Using olive oil in cooking and salad dressings is a great way to use monounsaturated fat vs. saturated or trans fats. I also like to use nuts for snacks and in recipes. Otherwise I find it hard to use monusaturated fats.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:26:04 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
I fry a lot of things in Water instead of oil though, like steak and hamburgers and such

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:26:19 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
I know that kids under 3 need fat in the diet for brain and nerve growth, so should drink whole milk, etc. Do you feel that older kids (with or without d) should have fat restictions, just avoid excessive fast/fat food, or ????

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:27:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
OH, Lea Ann - methinks you've left out my monounsaturated fat of preference! avocadoes -- and all that beta carotene just makes my little dietitian's heart beat high with joy!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:27:29 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
(I'm referring to kids with normal lipid profiles and no family history of early cardiovascular disease.)

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:29:32 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Judith: Counting carbs is enough for kids with diabetes and curbing the fast food and junk food as much as possible. But be real about it...they are kids and need more calories during growth. I try to help families focus more on the saturated fat intake from foods like cheese, high fat meats, dairy, etc.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:30:25 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Your right Betty! Avocadoes are a great source of monos.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:31:09 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
All this talk of fat has sent me to the frig for a piece of cold pizza, which I'll pay for with heartburn!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:31:50 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Lea Ann - I sure agree with that -- and I'd also reinforce that the kids (with or without d) should simply be offered what the whole family eats, not singled out for the "punishment" of eating healthier. Mom and Dad need to jmjust calmly and without fanfare model the kind of eating they want the kids to emulate.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:32:14 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Talking about avacados, it reminded me of the guac dip I had tonight laden with sour cream. Defeats all those good monos!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:32:35 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
I do eat cheeses for snacks, I love the camaberts and bries, white chedders and dutch cheeses.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:33:05 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Ah! Christmas in Arizona!! red chiles, green guacamole and white sour cream!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:34:05 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Parents really do set the pace for eating healthy. Afterall, they purchase, prepare, serve what is available. I have to remind myself of this every time I order pizza for the kids!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:34:47 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
LOL Betty
What about the "light" fat products - salad drsgs, mayo, etc...and the no-fat "sour cream", etc?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:35:52 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
I hate the words, "diet" and "light"

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:36:21 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Juli, I think your question about sodium in kids got lost in the shuffle. No reason to limit sodium intake in youngsters. Again, getting a variety of food on the table for them to choose from - and if you're having a high sodium meal (like suasage or a boxed casserole mix) fill the meal out with things that are naturally low in sodium like vegetables and fruits.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:36:33 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
I find the light mayos ok, don't notice the difference now. Some light salad drsgs are ok, too.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:36:37 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
I do use a "no fat" dressing, that is not no carb, that is wonderfull!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:38:06 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Judith: No need to use the light or no-fat but they may offer a "happy medium" between regular and fat-free.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:38:21 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Lea Ann, what about someone who DOES have an elevated cholestrol or LDL - then how does your advice differ?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:40:09 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
How about a "feta" sour cream dressing for potatoes?? It's what my hubby bought for supper

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:40:27 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
Tastes wonderfull!!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:42:37 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Someone with an elevated Chol or LDL would benefit from a lower saturated fat intake which may not mean a low-fat salad dressing if it is made with olive oil or other oils high in monos. It would be important to use lower fat dairy products and other animal products as they are high in saturated fat. Look for saturated fat in processed foods also. For someone who is overweight with elevated lipids a lower fat intake may help with weight control and lipid control so a lower fat option might help control calories and fat intake.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:44:29 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Has anyone seen that "feta" light sour cream in the States - that's a new one for me. And if Connie says it tastes wonderful, it probably bears checking out!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:44:56 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
Hello everyone! Just seen my endo today and got good news!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:45:11 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
I have a relative (female, early 70s, VERY active, very thin) with very high cholesterol. She has been on an essentially fat free diet for a number of years.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:45:21 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Hey, there's the Cutie - what'd he say?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:45:52 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
But of course the body MAKES cholesterol.....

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:46:03 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
Hey, Cutie

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:46:36 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
And pinetree mushrooms...yum!!
What did he say cutie?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:46:50 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Judith: Has the low fat diet helped with her chol?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:47:07 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Judith, that's a great reminder of how important genetics are in this -- nutrition is only one factor. And if eating reasonably isn't bringing things in to line, it's time to ask about the wonders of drugs.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:47:18 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
I lost 7 1/2 pounds and my sugars are a lot better than what they were. But I don't know what the A1c results are. I'm going to ask when ever one of the nurses calls about my insulin levels.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:47:33 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
Guess it's helped some, but it's a very restricted diet and her levels are still high. Believe she's on medication, too.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:48:30 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
Betty, I seldom eat potatoes, the play havoc with me, but when I do I eat the terribly unhealthy things with it...LOL

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:48:32 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Sounds like a great visit, Cutie.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:49:42 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Judith: Since diet changes have the potential of lowering chol 15-25 mg/dl it seems likely she would require meds.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:49:49 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
Was very low tonight.. so potatoes wont bug me as much as usual....

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:50:15 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
VERY GOOD Cutie!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:50:34 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Connie, I know what you mean - I was raised on a farm before they invented cholesterol -- and a potato always came with a bucket of real butter on it-- ooh, that reminds me, Lea Ann - care to share the latest on trans Fats with the group?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:50:52 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
I know. I really was dreading to go since there was someting "bad" to be said about my diabetes.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:51:18 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
How good is vegetables with diabetes?

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:52:42 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
Cutie, vegies are very good, especially eaten raw!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:53:21 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Sure Betty! Trans fats are formed in processed foods during hydrogenation. Hence they are found in stick margarine and vegetable oils which are used in fried foods, baked products and snack foods. They RAISE blood cholesterol levels.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:53:30 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
I eat a huge salad daily with either lemon jucie or dressing depending on my mood!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:53:40 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
Okay. I just ate half of a raw cucumber with some light ranch dressing.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:54:02 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
I love salads.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:54:13 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Did you all notice what Lea Ann said about the power of diet to lower cholesterol - only an average of about 25 mg/dl on average -- so if your CHOL is 280, speak up if you keep getting urged to eat less fat -- the hard facts are that you'll probably need an exercise program AND one or more drugs to get down below the goal level of less than 200 mg/dl.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:54:39 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
You really can't go wrong with vegetables!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:54:54 Eastern US
amy from 209.240.220.210
hi everyone

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:54:55 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
Gee, Lea Ann, that modest a drop in levels hardly seems worth all the effort!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:55:28 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
Wow Lea Ann, good thing i make every thing from scratch

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:55:46 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Yes, "eat more veggies" is almost always good advice -- fat-free, high in vitamins and anti-oxidants, low in sodium and they fill you up!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:56:02 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
Hello Amy

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:56:27 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Hi, Amy. Welcome to the chat. We're talking about fats tonight.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:56:35 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Betty brings up another thought...you really need to know what your blood lipids are. In fact it is recommended that they are checked every year for people with diabetes.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:56:45 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
Everytime I eat a salad it feels me up just as much as a Thanksgiving dinner!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:56:53 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
Bring on the Lipitor!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:58:08 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
I have a salad with navarone black olives for lunch, takes 3 units of H over an hour

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:58:45 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Judith: It is worth it...keep in mind the lower saturated fat diet is also recommended to lower the risk of other diseases and if you are on meds to lower blood fats a low saturated fat, low cholesterol diet is necessary for the meds to do their job right.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:59:05 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
I don't like black olives but everyone likes different things!

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:59:08 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
The goals for kids are on the site, I believe -- for adults, ADA recommends total cholesterol less than 200 and LDL less than 130.

Mon Dec 18 2000 21:59:40 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
Today I cheated and had a fresh fruit salad too(huge as well) took 5.5 more units!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:00:57 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Connie, I hate the word "cheating." Your life - your choice -- and you took the extra insulin to cover it, just like your pancreas would have done if you didn't have d!! I personally think you did great!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:00:57 Eastern US
amy from 209.240.220.210
fresh fruit makes your blood go up and require more insulin?

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:01:45 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
It is desireable for kids cholesterol to be under 170 mg/dl.

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:02:33 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
I know Betty, but it's soooo good, and usually I don't have both!!
Amy, my fruit salad has every thing in it including OJ!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:02:54 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Lea Ann, do you happen to know the LDL recommendation for kids?

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:03:47 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
My mom said that she heard that if you eat a lot of sugar, the insulin will work harder.

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:03:55 Eastern US
amy from 209.240.220.210
I guess I have never looked at it like that and it takes alot for me to have to give extra insulin.

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:04:04 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
I'd just like to know if that's true...

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:04:29 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
K\Lea Ann, my endo told me my good cholestorlo evens out my bad and then some, didn't tell what it was, just not to worry about it, and I didn't need meds!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:04:51 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
I've been searching, can't find them on site. BRB

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:05:11 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.144.62
Hi Eberyone

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:05:25 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
It is desireable for kids to have an LDL chol below 110 mg/dl.

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:05:46 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
cutie, I can't say that I know of any information that would suggest that what your mom was told is true -- if you eat a lot of carbohydrate (starch OR sugar) you will need MORE insulin, all things being equal) but the concept of the insulin working harder doesn't fly for me.

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:05:56 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.144.62
Eberyone = Everyone.

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:06:00 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
Hi Wendy, glad to see youy spelling/typing is as good as mine!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:06:05 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
Ok...from Harriet Lane Handbook (Johns Hopkins)
Kids/teens chol < 170

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:06:51 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.144.62
you taught me everything i know connie

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:07:03 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
HDL>45, LDL as Lea Ann said, <110

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:07:11 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
oooh! good one, Wendy!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:07:39 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
Now Wendy don't tell all!!LOL

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:08:03 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
Oops. See Lea Ann beat me to it.

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:08:11 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
hello new people!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:08:24 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
We're twins in another life like Judith and Marcia are Betty!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:08:34 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
Connie: Your MD likely was referring to the good Chol (HDL). Your total might be slightly elevated due to a high HDL which is protective of heart disease. Go girl! Keep it high with lots of exercise and a healthy weight!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:08:51 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Well, folks, we're over time for tonight's chat. I want to thank Lea Ann for doing her usual great job. The practical along with the good info!! We won't have a Food Matters chat next week... Christmas, ya know -- but I'll be back the following week doing a chat on Resolutions for the new year. Hope you all have a wonderful holiday!! Thanks again, Lea Ann.

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:09:32 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.125
Happy Holidays to all, and to all a good night!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:09:56 Eastern US
Lea Ann (Chat Host) from 12.83.82.100
YOu have a great chat group. Thanks for having me!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:10:03 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
THanks Lea Ann and Betty, I ;love these chats, you're so realistic about things, as most dieticians aren't!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:10:11 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.144.62
Night Judith lea ann and Betty

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:11:04 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Thos who want to keep going for a while, the room will stay open till half past the hour.

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:11:42 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat Moderator) from 205.188.195.24
Merry Ho Ho, you guys.. see you NEXT YEAR!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:12:10 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.144.62
So how are you tonight Connie?

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:12:12 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
HAve a wonderfull holiday!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:12:58 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T 1//pumping) from 207.194.16.167
go to parents Wendy!!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:13:35 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.144.62
I'm comming connie

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:15:19 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
I'm still here!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:16:36 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
Why's everyone going to parents for?

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:16:59 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
Well, I got t oget off here anyways.

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:17:04 Eastern US
cutie2000 (future endocrinologist) from 209.86.44.182
Bye!

Mon Dec 18 2000 22:21:36 Eastern US
rach from 203.123.78.163
anyone?



                 
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