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Food Matters: Obesity: Does It Harm or Merely Offend?
With Marion Franz on January 8, 2001

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Mon Jan 8 2001 20:48:31 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Betty I am on the chat line and will be happy to answer any questions or comment. marion

Mon Jan 8 2001 20:57:13 Eastern US
Judy from NY (Elissa..college sophmore..pumping 16 yrs) from 24.161.8.39
are you a nutritionist or dietician, marion?

Mon Jan 8 2001 20:58:56 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Judy I am a registered dietitian and have worked at the International Diabetes Center in Mpls for over 20 years.

Mon Jan 8 2001 20:59:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Welcome MArion, thanks so much for joining us

Mon Jan 8 2001 20:59:48 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5.5 yrs.) from 205.188.195.190
Hi.

Mon Jan 8 2001 20:59:55 Eastern US
Judy from NY (Elissa..college sophmore..pumping 16 yrs) from 24.161.8.39
well.....hi!! Glad to meet you

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:00:05 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Thanks Betty. I am looking forward to the chat.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:00:42 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
We are just about at time for the chat to begin, so let me begin by introducing our topic: "Obesity" Does It Harm or merely Offend?" and encouraging any and all comments and questions for our guest Host, Marion Franz.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:02:04 Eastern US
Judy from NY (Elissa..college sophmore..pumping 16 yrs) from 24.161.8.39
ok - I was just recently told by a doctor that your weight is not as important as your fitness level

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:02:15 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Hi Everyone

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:03:02 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
We might begin by saying, weight always seem to be the first priority for everyone, especially this time of year. But for individuals who have diabetes priorities often need to change. Blood glucose control should be the first priority. and Judy you are absoutely right fitness is the second priority.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:03:09 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Judy, i am very active...and my endo is having a cow over the fact that i am gaining weight

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:04:00 Eastern US
Judy from NY (Elissa..college sophmore..pumping 16 yrs) from 24.161.8.39
I guess I meant in a nondiabetic

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:04:12 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5.5 yrs.) from 205.188.195.190
My son is vegetarian, is 13 years old, and mostly eats carbohydrates (3 cups of cereal at a time...) and is not very active. He is lean at the moment but I worry that long term he shouldn't be consuming 200 grams of carbs in one breakfast meal....Do carbs convert to fat?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:04:22 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Wendy how much weight have you gained and what is your HbA1c level?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:04:50 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Marion, I know you took this title from an article that headlined a major news magazine last year. Can you summarize for us ways in which you have abserved that weight is misrepresented in terms of its health risk?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:06:09 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Ellen, research tells us that the body is very reluctant to convert carbohydrates to fat The body prefers to use carbohydrates as a source of energy (calories) or store them as glycogen. If weight is not a problem and your son's blood glucose is well controlled by premeal insulin doses covering the amount of carbohydrate he eats, the amount should be fine.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:07:18 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5.5 yrs.) from 205.188.195.190
Thanks Marion. I want to be supportive of his vegetarianism and don't want to start food battles.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:07:19 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
my a1c is 7.7 which is good for me.....weight is up maybe 10 lbs since 6/9/00

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:07:54 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Thinness is promoted as being healthy. Yet a recently published study reported that men who were heavy and physically fit lived longer than lean men who were not physically fit. Back to the importance of exercise!

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:09:08 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Wendy, you should be congratulated on the good job you are doing. Your HbA1c is much more important than 10 lb. I know of no one who developns diabetic complications because they gain 10 lb!

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:09:32 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Marion, I have never been skinny....except when diagnosed with d...........am trying to loose it....but don't want any of the pills endo is recomending

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:11:29 Eastern US
Judy from NY from 24.161.8.39
some people who begin pumping DO gain weight. One reason is the freedom to eat. another is that because you are aiming for tighter control, too much insulin is converted to fat

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:11:48 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Marion...i think the problem was she could not yell about the A1C so the weight became the issue

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:11:58 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Wendy, is your doctor recommending some of the weight loss pills now on the market? Meridia or Orlisat? Initially people lose about 10 lb with them, but if they discontinue the pills they usually gain it back. That's not very healthful either.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:12:03 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Marion, would you agree that many health professionals look at someone who is overweight and make judgements - such as "this person eats way too much" or "this person can't possibly be fit?" Do you have any advice for those who might encounter those types of atitudes?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:12:39 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Wendy--do you need a new doctor?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:12:46 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.123
Hello. Yesterday I had brought home to me very vividly how our perception of a "good" weight for women has changed. I watched "Some Like It Hot", a 1959 movie starring Marilyn Monroe. She had the "ideal figure"....and she looks CHUNKY by today's standards!

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:13:45 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Hi, Judith - welcome.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:13:56 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Marion..was the only one at the hospital i work for...maybe switching a new on just came

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:14:07 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
It is hard to overcome some of these prejudices. But it has been suggested that if someone followed very thin people around all day and recorded what they eat, it would be easy to be critical, but because they happen to inherit the right genes to be thin, no one is critical of them.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:14:27 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
Hi everyone.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:15:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Hi, Superstar - welcome to that chat. Topic is obesity. Any questions or comments?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:15:42 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
I am here on behalf of my husband. Is anyone in here?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:15:51 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Hello superstar. What did you do to get that great name?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:16:48 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5.5 yrs.) from 205.188.195.190
What foods give people energy rather than make them feel sleepy?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:16:49 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Marion, yes that was the endo's suggestion...of course she met me when i was really not eating well because of gall bladder problems

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:17:05 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
Yes. My husband is severely obese and has severe health problems. Nothing I seem to do helps. My daughter nick named be Superstar.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:17:38 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
therefore i was at my lowest weight in many years

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:17:44 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
The greatest weight-related myth that I would like to see disappear is that heavy people with type 2 diabetes MUST lose weight to control blood sugar - and this keeps both the doctor and the patient from actually concentrating on control.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:19:51 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Unfortunately, as I am sure you well know, all the usual remedies for people who are severely obese rarely work. Research is trying to find solutions but is your husband has diabetes as Betty just said blood glucose control is what matters today.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:21:24 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
He has Type II diabetes. But he refuses to cooperate with me on a diet.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:22:06 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
A friend of mine has a husband who is type 2 very overweight yet controls his sugars really well...makes me want to puke

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:22:08 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Betty, in fact in one study where they examined what happened to blood glucose levels if 20 lb or weight had been lost, only 41% of the individuals had better blood glucose levels. In 59% their blood glucose levels were worse. Today, we know type 2 diabetes is a progressive disease, and as the disease progresses weight loss is less likely to be helpful at all.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:22:22 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
His last blood glucose reading was 275. I also have a daughter with type I diabetes. I thought when he as diagnosed he would be a good example for her, but he is not.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:23:36 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Superstar--unfortunately it is your husband's problem and you can't eat for him. I guess you have to be the good example for your daughter.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:23:57 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
It amazes me how some people can control their sugar with no problem whatsover. Yet others try extremely hard, but nothing helps. That is my daughters case.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:24:09 Eastern US
Judy from NY from 24.161.8.39
don't you think magazines like diabetes Forecast perpetuate the myth of weight loss and control?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:24:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Hallelujah, Marion. The farther along in the journey with type 2 diabetes, the less likely that weight loss will be a factor in blood sugar control -

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:25:13 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
I am a good example for my daughter, although it isnt easy. Food seems to be at the center of so many things that we do now days. It is really kind of disgusting.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:25:26 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Marion, how common is it for restrictive or calorie controlled "diets," in the sense of prescribed eating plans, helpful to folks in the long run with respect to either glucose control or weight loss?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:25:28 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
I think that is very true....Judy

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:25:34 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Judy yes I agree with you. Unfortunately, the myth about weight loss is so ingrained in the medical profession it is hard to change even when there is research suggesting the need for change. Forcast reflects this as well.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:27:00 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
My endo blames my insulin resitance on my weight..i have always been insulin restiant

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:27:17 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Unfortunately, it is so easy for a doctor to simple say go home and lose weight. And then if the person with diabetes can not do this, it is easy to blame the patient. Doctors need to learn to be able to give advice that would be more helpful or refer pts to someone who can.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:27:49 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
Wendy: my daughter is insulin resitant also, and she only weighs 90 lbs.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:28:36 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Wendy, there are other things that cause insulin resistance as well--sedentary lifestyle, aging, high fat diet--and probably most important genes.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:28:43 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
But Wendy, as the disease process goes on, insulin deficiency gets added to the insulin resistance -- just losing weight to reduce resistance isn't effective if you're nolonger making enough insulin to cover a reasonable food intake.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:28:55 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Thats good to know....

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:29:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
ooh, aging, Marion! You had to bring up that one!

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:29:38 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5.5 yrs.) from 205.188.195.190
Superstar how old is your daughter and is she on the insulin pump?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:29:43 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
i am a type 1 on the pump....must be the aging...

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:30:49 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
My daughter is almost 11. No she is not on the pump yet. We're going to start seeing a new dr Wednesday, and are going to ask him about it.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:31:14 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Everyone--or at least nearly everyone--would like to lose weight. The problem is people lose weight but 90% regain what they lost within 1 to 2 years. And it is not because people don't try. We just don't understand what controls appetite today. If researchers ever solved that problem it would be great.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:31:38 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
hello guys!

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:32:16 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Okay...i thought i was doing good maintaining the weight i was in college......

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:32:22 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Back to aging--that is probably why we have so many lean elderly people with type 2 diabetes.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:32:23 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
Hello Stephers

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:32:34 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
So, Marion, you've mentioned focusing on glucose control as prioity #1 and getting fir as priority #2 - can you add any words of wisdom about food choices and strategies?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:33:07 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5.5 yrs.) from 205.188.195.190
I think that it's overwhelming to have to lose a lot of weight and it's far better to have small goals - 1 pound at a time, ...

Can you explain why the person losing weight reaches a plateau for a period of time before they are able to lose more weight?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:33:09 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Weny if you maintained the weight you were in college you were doing great.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:33:09 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Hi, Stephers, welcome to the chat - topic is Obesity - do yu have any questions or comments?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:33:26 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
OOPS! Make that getting FIT!! lol what a typist!

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:33:40 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
yes, any suggestions on how to do that Marion.....

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:34:45 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Ellen, the body probably has a level of weight at which it comfortable and it is reluctant to change that weight. Some people call it a set point other a plateau.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:34:46 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
well Betty, i am a little overwieght now and on insulin treatment. I am wanting to go on the pump and things are looking good for that! I have heard that most people GAIN weight with a pump...is it possible to loose???

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:34:53 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Stephers - type 1.5 -- insulin dependent with insulin resistance?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:36:02 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
nope. inbetween type 1 and type2. my mom, brother and i all 3 have this problem. we have been in studies for it too

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:36:12 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Stephers...i lost when i first started on the pump...then got a little sloppy.....am now working on loosing again....

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:36:35 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Betty, I think the first priority for people with diabetes is learn carbohydrate counting. If people have type 1 diabetes they can then adjust their premeal insulin dose to cover the amount and maintain control. People with type 2 diabetes can also do pre and postmeal BG testing and can determine how much carbohydrate they can tolerate. If their blood glucose are not in range they need to think about changes in therapy--that is to say medications.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:37:20 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
thats the problem a lot of endos.....don't want to put type 2 or 1.5 on the pump because of the weight issue, but it does improve control

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:37:49 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
i have a feeling i would loose on the pump because now, i feel like i am eating sooooo much to keep from going low! with the pump i wouldnt need to do that and as far as the pump mindset of (i can eat anything now) im not really into sweets and stuff anymore like before

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:38:12 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
My daughter constantly counts her carbs, but it doesn't help. I help her with it too. Her sugars are all over the place.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:38:28 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
The person with diabetes really needs to decide what is right for their lifestyle. It should not be up to docs.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:39:04 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Whether you lose or gain when going on the pump is dependent on several things. 1) If you go from poor control to good control by any means (the pump included) you will probably gain weight as the body tries to restore it's normal chemistry. 2) If you've been feeding a lot of lows on injections and you're able to reduce lows and so reduce food intake, you might lose weight on the pump,and 3) whether you start overeating for your needs as a reaction to the greater freedom on the pump, you might gain, 4) if your doses aren't set right 9particuarly if basals are too high) and you end up having to "feed" the extra insulin to prevent or treat lows, you might gain.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:39:37 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Stephers...for the past week i have been eating like one meal a day......just because if have not felt that great and have not been hungry on shots this would not have been possible

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:39:50 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
My endo is great. he has been with me from the begining and really "goes above and beyond the call of duty!" he is always calling with new info and stuff for treatment and checking in with us

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:40:14 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Stepers you came in late, but we started by saying more important than your weight is your blood glucose control. However, you are right you do not want to have frequent lows that make you overeat to treat.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:40:18 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx 2/89, pump 5.5 yrs.) from 205.188.195.190
Betty what do you hear about Starlix for Type 2?

Although my son eats a lot on the pump, he really enjoys NOT HAVING TO EAT when he's busy or not hungry.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:40:48 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Can I give a big AMEN to carb counting for both Type 1 and type 2, MArion?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:41:22 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
most of the time ever since i have been diagnosed, my sugars have all been 80-150 except when im sick so my control is pretty good

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:41:22 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Counting carbs is half the battle. The other half is making sure medication is adjusted appropriately. It is easy to blame food when often it is medication--insulin that needs to be adjusted.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:41:34 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Ellen, Starlix is of the same class as Pandin - repahlidine .. there is scuttlebutt that it will be approved in 2001

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:41:51 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
oops -Repaglinide

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:42:14 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Carbohydrate counting is certainly for individuals with either type 1 and type 2 diabetes. It deserves a loud AMEN.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:42:38 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Good for you, Stephers - you must really be watching things well

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:44:00 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Starlix was just approved I believe by FDA. They (Prandin or Starlix)have an advantage because just like insulin for people with type 1 diabetes they can be taken just before eating. This can give more flexiblity. The disadvantage, of course, is that they have to be taken before every meal.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:44:51 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
im on a really low insulin dose as well, so if things start changing there is a lot of room for adjustments.
I have gained almost 40lbs since i was diagnosed with diabetes. being a teenager, that is hard to deal with

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:44:56 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
Is Starlix ok for kids?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:46:04 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
I bet that is hard Stephers. People arent exactly compassionate, are they?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:46:12 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Stephers, i think a pump may be a good option for you if you are feeding a lot of lows

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:46:48 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
No Starlix is primarily for adults with type 2 diabetes. It works by stimulating the pancreas to release insulin very quickly. Would not help kids with type 1 diabetes, but maybe kids with type 2 diabes. Unfortunately, hasn/t been studies in this group.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:46:58 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
Superstar: no they arent! they dont understand the juggling game of insulin, food, exercise, and trying to be as normal as possible!

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:47:48 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
At sixteen, you would have probably been gaining some weight at this time anyway, Stephers because I imagine you've still got some growing to do -- but as you said earlier, having to treat a lot of lows because your insulin doses aren't quite right can really add up in the calorie department.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:48:01 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Some of us do Stephers....

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:48:23 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
Stephers: People tend to shy away from daughter when learn of her diabetes. Do you find that as well?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:49:03 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Stephers that is the great thing about chat lines and support groups. You get share with people who have the same concerns as you do.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:49:45 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
My daughter finds great support in the kids with diabetes chat room. Diabetes camps help a lot, too.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:49:56 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Superstar how old is your daughter?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:50:42 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
She will be 11 next month

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:50:58 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
For kids with diabetes there is nothing like a diabetes camp! I worked at Camp Needlepoint for many years and loved every minute of it.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:50:59 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
Well, at first, (i was 13 when i got it) people treated me like a freak! they laughed and stuff! it was bad. but i really learned who my TRUE friends were! When i meet new people, and they find out about it, i just tell them the answers to what they want to know so they dont think its not good to talk about. And my other friends that know about it help the new people deal with it just by acting like im a normal person and not trreating me different because of it

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:51:39 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Diabetes is really tough because it takes both an emotional and a physical toll

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:52:01 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Never went to D camp....

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:52:16 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
there are still some people that look at me weird and freak out over the blood and shots but in time, they dont think anything of it.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:52:43 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
Diabetes camp has been a blessing for my daughter. They have helped her and taught her more than I could have.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:53:03 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
i have never been to D camp! i do run a "teens with diabetes" e-mail group! its cool! there are all kinds of people on it!

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:53:54 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
You should really consider a camp sometime, Stephers. It can make all the difference. Do you take shots?

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:54:01 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Well back to this weight issue. We all need to do our part and get the message out to the public, being healthy is more important than being thin. Being healthy means eating fruits, vegetables, whole grains, milk etc.--all foods recommended for skipping on many of the fad diets--and exercising. If people do that regardless of what they weigh they should feel great about themselves.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:54:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
what a great idead, Stephers - good for you -

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:54:17 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
I hardley ever test in puplic....comes from being told it was disgusting by a classmate...heck i did not test for 10 yrs after that incident

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:54:27 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
yes. i take about 2 shots a day and test 6 times a day

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:55:59 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
i agree....but even when you take care of your self its still hard to feel good when you live in a world where media makes being thin so important all the time

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:56:06 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
That's so true, Marion - if we could get people to think "activity" instead of "never let good food pass my lips again" when weight is an issue or a worry, I think we'd make some real improvements.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:56:15 Eastern US
Superstar from 24.4.255.89
I'm signing out for now. Stephers, if you ever need to chat with someone who understands, our email address is bearsfans1@home.com

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:56:28 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
Wendy, remember it your health--regardless of what other think is disgusting you have to do what is important for you. If they really cared about you they wouldn't find it disgusting.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:56:48 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
thanks Superstar! take care!

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:57:36 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
bye Superstar

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:57:52 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Stephers, I've heard overweight referred to as "the last legal prejudice" Unfortunately, legal or not, it is definitly a prejudice in our society.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:58:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
Superstar, thanks so much for sharing tonight.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:58:37 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
I know that now...Marion

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:58:47 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
It is probably time for this chat to end. But remember this eat healthy, exercise, control your blood glucose levels, and let the rest of the world worry about their weight.

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:59:08 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
yes it is Betty. it is so easy to see that happening in a high school! lol its just sickening

Mon Jan 8 2001 21:59:25 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
I'm now the guinea pig for my office...i tell them about all the new testers

Mon Jan 8 2001 22:00:03 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.89.140.60
Thanks for the Advice Marion

Mon Jan 8 2001 22:00:39 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
Thanks Marion

Mon Jan 8 2001 22:01:52 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
MArion, Thanks so much for joining us tonight - we had a lively chat, for sure. Next week's Food Matters chat is a "back by popular demand" second appearance by patti Geil who will once again host a chat on "Herbals, Supplements and Diabetes. Hope to see you all back next week.

Mon Jan 8 2001 22:02:45 Eastern US
Stephers4684 (16 yrs old, type1.5 for 3 yrs) from 12.73.164.109
thanks betty! bye!

Mon Jan 8 2001 22:02:48 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Moderator) from 64.12.103.43
The room will stay open for a while longer for those who want to "talk among yourselves!" Night all.

Mon Jan 8 2001 22:03:13 Eastern US
Marion Franz (Chat host) from 64.12.102.42
It was fun. Thanks to everyone for sharing.

Mon Jan 8 2001 22:11:38 Eastern US
Brenda H. from 206.112.197.133
Oh behalf of the website, thanks Marion.



                 
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